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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exzavier wrote:
So should I forget my Rogue and start a DK?

I guess they are better then every other class?


They are called a "hero class" but that's really just because they start at lv55 with a little backstory to lead them in. They're not stronger than other classes.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I am all Combat. I have 51 points there. I am level 62 and want to get some of the assan. stuff next. Malice, Improved Evis., Vigor and Lethality.

Killing Spree kind of sucks but does it stack with Blade Flurry?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mentioned this in another thread, but to unlock the DK char you have to have a lvl 55 toon on that realm. The ghoul pet doesn't have any aggro pulling abilities like growl/taunt but it does a fair amount of damage. Even with a UH spec I am still using the blood aspect and that has a healing effect which really kicks in when you start throwing out the AoE damage. There's also an ability, I think it's Deathstrike, I'll have to check, but it heals for a decent amount per disease that's stacked on the target. I've only had problems when I'm killing several mobs and accidently pull something 3 or so levels higher then me into the mix.

Desecrated ground FTW...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just moved out of Hellfire into Zangarmarsh. I soloed the entire zone. Even the elite group quests. They were close, and I had to use a potion, but doable. I skipped the Hellfire Cit quests, I might come back and do those with my brother sometime. From what I can see all 3 specs are good choices and very balanced. I think DK's are more powerful then normal chars, I've never been able to solo elites 3 levels higher then me with my rogue. Maybe it's doable with some of the caster classes, but not with a melee.

Mine is just about 65 now. I'll probably take him to Northrend as soon as I hit 70.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can quest in Northrend at 68... No real need to wait since the equipment drops are SO much better from even the starter quests.

I've had the same experience with my Blood DK. Kill any +3 elite I want. Pop my healing cooldowns and take it down about 10 secs after the cooldown abilities fade (20 sec durations on those...).

Man, if I had the ability to do the Northrend quests before 68, I would...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That vast Elite killing ability is largely due to the nerf of Outland, remember. Things get tougher, more like it used to be, in Northrend.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep thinking about this whenever I run into a DK in Outland harvesting herbs...

http://threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2008-11-19
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really enjoyed the DK quest line.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you guys think of this tanking build? I know there is no Expertise Talents in it, but I'm just toying right now.

8/23/40
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DEATHFORCE: There are certainly crazy things you can do with this game, you can generate a world that is 3 times the size of earth before it starts having errors, although I dont know how long it would take to generate a world that large anyways lol

TRASSIN: I'm guessing about 21 days? Assuming you take a break every 7th day or so.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try it this way:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this: Tank w/ DPS
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DEATHFORCE: There are certainly crazy things you can do with this game, you can generate a world that is 3 times the size of earth before it starts having errors, although I dont know how long it would take to generate a world that large anyways lol

TRASSIN: I'm guessing about 21 days? Assuming you take a break every 7th day or so.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hybrid builds like that are terrible for DK tanks. It's not about stacking mitigation talents from all 3 trees, you need to take the DPS / threat stuff too, and the expertise talents are SOOO important if you don't want DPS riding you on aggro the whole time.

I tank raids as Unholy using this build:
5/11/55

I've also done it as Frost, using this build:
8/50/13

If you wanted to go the Blood route, you'd want something like this:
50/11/10
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I want a Blood tank setup, but I've read (Elitist Jerks) that Blood isn't quite set up for true tanking. Blizzard is looking to change things and I'm looking forward to them.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mojobacca wrote:
Yeah, I want a Blood tank setup, but I've read (Elitist Jerks) that Blood isn't quite set up for true tanking. Blizzard is looking to change things and I'm looking forward to them.


Yeah, Blood is lacking in mitigation, and has weaker AoE threat than the other two trees, but as you said, they've promised changes soon, I'm hoping in 3.0.4.
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