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Trassin Brigadier Legate


Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 10149 Location: Malabo, Equatorial Guinea
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: Best Religion Ever |
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I think I'm going to have to look into converting to Zoroastrianism.
Quote: | Jumping over outdoor fires is a unique practice - it is thought to bring health during the coming year. |
How can you not want to be part of a religion that actively promotes jumping over fires? _________________ The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. - Albert Einstein
"Raccoons oscillate at 50Hz in Europe." - FAWBOTS
"I'm not sure I'm up for orgy scrabble parties" - Female Friend
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charonodaemon Freeman


Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 155 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Fire rules!!! _________________ "Kittens give Morbo gas."
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Mishlai Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 6226 Location: Dry Land
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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You may wish to look into how they deal with their dead. _________________ You are the result of 4 billion years of evolutionary success.
Fucking act like it.
"The stars died so that you could be here today" - Lawrence Krauss
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CrushFearSynth Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 9017 Location: Sterling, VA
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: |
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What Mish said. Plus, it's one of the first religions to introduce daulism, a straight line seperating good from evil. Where's the fun in that? _________________ "The cheese stands alone." - Madhatte |
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Mongolio Brigadier Elite


Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 4976
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Who cares what they do with their dead??? They are dead. They don't give a flip.
That's like worrying about what happens to the car you just sold to someone. Do you care if he immediately wrecks it? I surely don't.
You could wrap me in newspaper and drop me in a ditch for all I care. _________________ Core meltdown (commonly known as a meltdown) is an accident scenario in nuclear reactors, and is one of the possible modes of failure for light water reactors, during which the reactor pile turns into a pile of reactor.
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Trassin Brigadier Legate


Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 10149 Location: Malabo, Equatorial Guinea
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Yeah the dead thing doesn't so much bug me, in that it could be done to me, as it does that while I'm still alive I would have to deal with the smell.
For those that don't know what we're talking about, Zoroastrians place their dead on high towers and allow birds/nature to do their thing.
Also, they do cremation and burial in some parts of the world now. _________________ The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. - Albert Einstein
"Raccoons oscillate at 50Hz in Europe." - FAWBOTS
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CrushFearSynth Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 9017 Location: Sterling, VA
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Put my corpse in a tower if you want, just have automated gun turrets to take out those stupid birds. _________________ "The cheese stands alone." - Madhatte |
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Madhatte Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 7948 Location: Olympia, WA
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: |
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I can't believe ol' Zoroaster still has followers. _________________ We live in an amazing, amazing world, and it's wasted on the crappiest generation of spoiled idiots. -- Louis CK
We are going to have to stick a pin in a map, set fire to something and carry on until the earth looks flat! -- RandyMac
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Mongolio Brigadier Elite


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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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The first time I'd ever heard of the religion was when I saw a character in Dark Age of Camelot named Zarathrustra. I just couldn't believe that was a randomly generated name, so I looked it up. _________________ Core meltdown (commonly known as a meltdown) is an accident scenario in nuclear reactors, and is one of the possible modes of failure for light water reactors, during which the reactor pile turns into a pile of reactor.
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Trassin Brigadier Legate


Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 10149 Location: Malabo, Equatorial Guinea
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Yep, apparently his teachings also had some influence on writing of the Hebrew Bible which was converted from the oral tradition to written word around the same time as the height of Zoroastrianism. (Don't have my text books in the apartment right now or I would quote the exact text). _________________ The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. - Albert Einstein
"Raccoons oscillate at 50Hz in Europe." - FAWBOTS
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Madhatte Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 7948 Location: Olympia, WA
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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That rings a bell with me, too. I can't recall my references, either. _________________ We live in an amazing, amazing world, and it's wasted on the crappiest generation of spoiled idiots. -- Louis CK
We are going to have to stick a pin in a map, set fire to something and carry on until the earth looks flat! -- RandyMac
I could teach you to how file a washer to make it worth a nickel but if you really want to make big bucks just take a penny and drill a hole in it and it becomes a washer and is worth a dime. -- Art Martin, Old-Time Logger |
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CrushFearSynth Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 9017 Location: Sterling, VA
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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It piqued my interest when I began playing a tabletop game called Nephilim. Pretty decent game, and they really did their homework. On a side note, everyone on this board should remember "Thus Spake Zarathrustra". If your memory is fuzzy, I'll give you a hint: Space Baby! _________________ "The cheese stands alone." - Madhatte |
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Mishlai Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 6226 Location: Dry Land
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Well, the Zoroastrian influence on Judaism isn't certain. I think it looks damn likely though.
Zoroastrians were the 1st to have the concept of good, evil, an afterlife & eternal soul, cosmic struggle, demons and angels, and so on.
In the Torah, none of these things are mentioned. The Jews and the Zoroastirans cohabitated a city... babylon? I forget. somewhere around 800BC.
Mysteriously, after that Judaic writings started exhibiting these themes. I'm pretty sure we had this conversation on this baord once before, because I remember Quag pointing out the snake in Genesis as being the devil, but in my opinion it was just a snake.
There's actually a Zoroastrian... preserve? I don't know what to call it, but they've got one here in Florida, where the dead can go be picked by birds & so forth. Meh. Whatever they want to do is fine with me.
As far as jumping over fires, a high school friend of mine once confused "over" with "in" and took a trip to the hospital. He was ok, or at least as ok as he was before he jumped in a fire. _________________ You are the result of 4 billion years of evolutionary success.
Fucking act like it.
"The stars died so that you could be here today" - Lawrence Krauss
"The universe is huge and old, and rare things happen all the time." - Lawrence Krauss |
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Trassin Brigadier Legate


Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 10149 Location: Malabo, Equatorial Guinea
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I was gonna make a joke about the whole falling in the fire thing not really improving ones health.
Here is the text I wanted to quote:
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[586-539 B.C.E.] During their exile, the Jewish people began to assimilate influences from the surrounding Babylonian culture... The sense of moral opposition, while present in the Israelite religion from an early time, may have been sharpened from this time one, both by the pain of exile and by subsequent contact with the Persian religion of Zoroastrianism. - Michael Molloy, Experiencing the Worlds Religions |
_________________ The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. - Albert Einstein
"Raccoons oscillate at 50Hz in Europe." - FAWBOTS
"I'm not sure I'm up for orgy scrabble parties" - Female Friend |
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CrushFearSynth Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 9017 Location: Sterling, VA
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Can't beat the Temple of Set. _________________ "The cheese stands alone." - Madhatte |
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Mishlai Brigadier Survivor


Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 6226 Location: Dry Land
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. So it's more like 600 BC, and Babylon was right.
I believe it, but I think that there's enough shadow of doubt that people who want to insist that Judaism didn't "evolve" to include it's modern view of the heavens have some room to do so. I'm not sure how much debate there is among Historians without a stake in the matter, but I think that they must at the very least agree that they aren't sure, and that the transfer is assumed, however strongly. _________________ You are the result of 4 billion years of evolutionary success.
Fucking act like it.
"The stars died so that you could be here today" - Lawrence Krauss
"The universe is huge and old, and rare things happen all the time." - Lawrence Krauss |
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ashlad Brigadier Remembered


Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 3442 Location: Norristown, PA
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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All historians who have an opinion have a stake in the matter. _________________ "Morals are customs rather than natural law." --Robert A. Heinlein |
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Trassin Brigadier Legate


Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 10149 Location: Malabo, Equatorial Guinea
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:30 am Post subject: Re: Best Religion Ever |
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Trassin wrote: | I think I'm going to have to look into converting to Zoroastrianism.
Quote: | Jumping over outdoor fires is a unique practice - it is thought to bring health during the coming year. |
How can you not want to be part of a religion that actively promotes jumping over fires? |
I'm taking the Eastern Religion version of this course, this semester. I'm really hoping I can find an "Eastern" equivalent to Zoroastrianism. _________________ The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. - Albert Einstein
"Raccoons oscillate at 50Hz in Europe." - FAWBOTS
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Exzavier Brigadier Commando


Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 3329 Location: Richmond, VA
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I took history of religion and wrote a paper on the meadow mountain massacre.
Basically Morons in Utah killed 50+ or so settlers trying to get to California. _________________ "Fuckin' Amesome" --- Joe Flacco
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Buddy Lee Brigadier Trainee


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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Exzavier wrote: | I took history of religion and wrote a paper on the meadow mountain massacre.
Basically Morons in Utah killed 50+ or so settlers trying to get to California. |
I see what you did there. _________________ "What cheers me up? Um... I suppose mainly gloating over the misfortunes of other people. I guess that has to be it. Yeah, mainly crowing over the miseries of others. It doesn't always work, but it never completely fails. And then there's irony. There's irony, which is the gin in the campari, the cream in the coffee. Um... Sex can have diminishing returns, but it's amazing. Uh, no that's pretty much it, then it's a clear run to the grave." -Christopher Hitchens
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