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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Best Religion Ever Reply with quote

I think I'm going to have to look into converting to Zoroastrianism.

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Jumping over outdoor fires is a unique practice - it is thought to bring health during the coming year.


How can you not want to be part of a religion that actively promotes jumping over fires?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fire rules!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may wish to look into how they deal with their dead.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Mish said. Plus, it's one of the first religions to introduce daulism, a straight line seperating good from evil. Where's the fun in that?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares what they do with their dead??? They are dead. They don't give a flip.

That's like worrying about what happens to the car you just sold to someone. Do you care if he immediately wrecks it? I surely don't.

You could wrap me in newspaper and drop me in a ditch for all I care.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the dead thing doesn't so much bug me, in that it could be done to me, as it does that while I'm still alive I would have to deal with the smell.

For those that don't know what we're talking about, Zoroastrians place their dead on high towers and allow birds/nature to do their thing.

Also, they do cremation and burial in some parts of the world now.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put my corpse in a tower if you want, just have automated gun turrets to take out those stupid birds.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe ol' Zoroaster still has followers.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first time I'd ever heard of the religion was when I saw a character in Dark Age of Camelot named Zarathrustra. I just couldn't believe that was a randomly generated name, so I looked it up.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, apparently his teachings also had some influence on writing of the Hebrew Bible which was converted from the oral tradition to written word around the same time as the height of Zoroastrianism. (Don't have my text books in the apartment right now or I would quote the exact text).
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That rings a bell with me, too. I can't recall my references, either.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It piqued my interest when I began playing a tabletop game called Nephilim. Pretty decent game, and they really did their homework. On a side note, everyone on this board should remember "Thus Spake Zarathrustra". If your memory is fuzzy, I'll give you a hint: Space Baby!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the Zoroastrian influence on Judaism isn't certain. I think it looks damn likely though.

Zoroastrians were the 1st to have the concept of good, evil, an afterlife & eternal soul, cosmic struggle, demons and angels, and so on.

In the Torah, none of these things are mentioned. The Jews and the Zoroastirans cohabitated a city... babylon? I forget. somewhere around 800BC.

Mysteriously, after that Judaic writings started exhibiting these themes. I'm pretty sure we had this conversation on this baord once before, because I remember Quag pointing out the snake in Genesis as being the devil, but in my opinion it was just a snake.

There's actually a Zoroastrian... preserve? I don't know what to call it, but they've got one here in Florida, where the dead can go be picked by birds & so forth. Meh. Whatever they want to do is fine with me.

As far as jumping over fires, a high school friend of mine once confused "over" with "in" and took a trip to the hospital. He was ok, or at least as ok as he was before he jumped in a fire.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I was gonna make a joke about the whole falling in the fire thing not really improving ones health.

Here is the text I wanted to quote:
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[586-539 B.C.E.] During their exile, the Jewish people began to assimilate influences from the surrounding Babylonian culture... The sense of moral opposition, while present in the Israelite religion from an early time, may have been sharpened from this time one, both by the pain of exile and by subsequent contact with the Persian religion of Zoroastrianism. - Michael Molloy, Experiencing the Worlds Religions

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't beat the Temple of Set.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. So it's more like 600 BC, and Babylon was right.

I believe it, but I think that there's enough shadow of doubt that people who want to insist that Judaism didn't "evolve" to include it's modern view of the heavens have some room to do so. I'm not sure how much debate there is among Historians without a stake in the matter, but I think that they must at the very least agree that they aren't sure, and that the transfer is assumed, however strongly.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Best Religion Ever Reply with quote

Trassin wrote:
I think I'm going to have to look into converting to Zoroastrianism.

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Jumping over outdoor fires is a unique practice - it is thought to bring health during the coming year.


How can you not want to be part of a religion that actively promotes jumping over fires?


I'm taking the Eastern Religion version of this course, this semester. I'm really hoping I can find an "Eastern" equivalent to Zoroastrianism.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took history of religion and wrote a paper on the meadow mountain massacre.

Basically Morons in Utah killed 50+ or so settlers trying to get to California.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I took history of religion and wrote a paper on the meadow mountain massacre.

Basically Morons in Utah killed 50+ or so settlers trying to get to California.


I see what you did there.
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