The Blue Elephant Brigade

SPyder · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:05 am Post subject: About the CoH SG

I sent in a trouble call to see if we can get Haven's character (the last on still in the SG) promoted to leader so he can invite us and we can build our base and such. I have not recieved a reply yet but will post as soon as I do.
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Glistam · I plead the Third Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 5075

Are you talking about TeamBEB? Deadzone wasn't a leader?
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Mojobacca · Brigadier Commando Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2789

I didn't know that Heroes could build bases... figured that was just a villain thing.
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Mongolio · Brigadier Elite Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 4976

Is a villain group's base just a meetin' spot?
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Mojobacca · Brigadier Commando Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2789

From what I understand, the Villain Groups base is more than just a meeting spot. You can actually have heroes try to invade your base. I'm not sure if the same can be done for the Heroes if they build a base or not.

On the Villain's side of things, the rewards you can get for completing missions and maybe even killing mobs is the standard Ispiration, Enhancement and Infamy. In addition to all that you can earn Salvage and Prestige (if grouped with your Villain Group doing VG stuff) which is used to do things with your base. I hear you can buy Prestige with Infamy, but I've heard there are problems with that.

Mongo, I'm not sure how you would like the CoV as there are no true Defenders and healing it taken care of by the Corruptors (CoV's Blaster... though underpowered when compared to both Blaster's damage and Defender's buff/debuff-ablity). You could play a newer version of Murk, since you couldn't take Dark Melee as a Stalker or Regeneration as a Brute.

Apparently Stalkers are where the damage-dealing is. They have improved chance of critting when they are hidden (and conveniently that's your first Secondary skill anyway). All Stalker's get Hide at 1st level and can get their "Sniper" attack at 10th.

Dominators are Controllers with fire-power. You can select from all the old Controller sets except Illusion, but they add Plant Control. You also get very downgraded Blaster attack powers. All Dominators get a free power called "Dominate!" which is kind of like the Warrior's Rage bar in WoW. The more you use your powers the more your Dominate! bar goes up. When you hit 90% on the bar, you can activate Dominate! and all your Powers are boosted by 50% for about a minute or so.

Masterminds are the pet-class. I haven't played one yet, but I will get to it. Masterminds have a free power like Dominate, but I forget what it's called or what it does.

Brutes are the "Tankers". They have a Rage Bar that allows you to activate Rage, which I assumes does something similar the Dominators power.

Corruptors are the Blastfenders. They can choose from many of the Blaster primaries and Defender secondaries. They don't excel at either of these roles but they do work together well. Corruptors get the Scourge ability that provides an improved chance of causing a crit the less health a target has. Against Minions, this is worthless. Against the bigger guys, this more than makes up for the Corruptor's normally lacking damage capacity.

I'm gonna read the manual some more and offer more info if I can.

I do know they added several "convenience" things to CoH/CoV since we last played that make it nicer too.
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Mojobacca · Brigadier Commando Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2789

Ok, both Hero and Villain Supergroups can build bases. They can be used in Raids. A Raid can occur anytime a SG/VG has a "Item of Power". This item will give a bonus to everyone in the SG/VG as long as it remains in the custody of that SG/VG. Other groups can try to take them from you by raiding your base.
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Mongolio · Brigadier Elite Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 4976

I'm actually wandering away from healers (didn't go all that high in CoH with one) and I've never even gotten to level 8 with one in WoW, to say nothing of GW.

I still like pet classes, though. I'd like to try the Mastermind.
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Mojobacca · Brigadier Commando Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2789

Very well... you have my permission.
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Kellion · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:35 pm Post subject:

The PvP in Cov is only in specific zones. It's a lot like DAoC in that respect. All other zones are PvE only.

Masterminds are a great class for soloing. Having a party of minions can turn the tide. I have been finding that if I'm up against an Orange Boss or 2 with some Lt's or Minions, I tend to have a hard time. They hit pretty hard and your pets aren't that tough. The problem though is that if you are with a Dominator, my pets (Soldiers) use AoE effect disorients and such which can break the mezzes or Sleeps. Haven was getting a little upset Razz

Anyway, all in all it's a lot of fun and bases allow you to make stuff with a workshop and salvage. Only problem is that it takes an assload of Prestige to buy it all. Around 500k for all the power and controls you need. With each new member you get 20k for the group. So that means you need to do a LOT of missions and killing. With Bounty, at lvl 18.5 I've only aquired 35k or so. It either takes a lot of minions (players) or a lot of questing.
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Kellion · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject:

Oh, and on another note.

Brutes are NOT tanks...

They do an Assload of damage with their Fury, but they have a glass jaw. With the nerfed healing available in CoV, you'd better pack a lot of healing insp.

Masterminds have a power that up their minions damage and accuracy. It has a limited range so they have to be near you.

Stalkers also have a glass jaw and Regen is one of their powers, not Brutes. BTW they seriously nerfed Instant Healing. It's no longer a toggle, it's a one time use, then Very Long recharge. I mean, it needed to be nerfed, but come on! This make us Regen Scrappers much more breakable Razz

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Mojobacca · Brigadier Commando Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2789

This site has a good list of the AT's and the Power Sets. Just find them on the menu on the left.
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SPyder · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject: Re:

Anyone have a good website for info? Like maps to the stores and junk.
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Mojobacca · Brigadier Commando Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2789

Not sure about stores and whatnot, but I know the in-game map shows the location of the "Quartermasters" to sell your training enhancements to. I'll try to find a site for you.
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Kellion · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:12 am Post subject:

The normal map now shows all of that. Specialized Quartermasters and all. The first specialized ones are in Caup de Diable or some such crap, the first zone after port oaks.
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Mongolio · Brigadier Elite Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 4976

I was looking at a Hero Builder. I'm thinking that a regen scrapper probably wouldn't need Stamina now that IH is a clicky power.

Anyways, what I really wanted to say was that I'm not sure if I'm gonna pick this one up until after the holidays. Seems that most of the archtypes aren't really my style (except for masterminds).

We'll see, I guess.
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SPyder · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:29 am Post subject: Re:

Is anyone still playing? I have not seen a sole in a few weeks.
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Glistam · I plead the Third Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 5075

Here's one:

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Resheph · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:15 am Post subject:

Heh heh, good one Glistam
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SPyder · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:58 am Post subject: Re:

I was actually thinking of the type at the bottom of your shoes but so that will work as well.
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Madhatte · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject:

Glistam = the funneh
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