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Akuma Brigadier Commando


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:59 am Post subject: Cataclysm Talent Plans |
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Quote: | One of the basic tenets of Blizzard game design is that of “concentrated coolness.” We’d rather have a simpler design with a lot of depth, than a complicated but shallow design. The goal for Cataclysm remains to remove a lot of the passive (or lame) talents, but we don’t think that’s possible with the current tree size. To resolve this, we're reducing each tree to 31-point talents. With this reduction in tree size we need to make sure they're being purchased along a similar leveling curve, and therefore will also be reducing the number of total talent points and the speed at which they're awarded during the leveling process. |
The full post is here.
This sounds just plain awesome in every way. _________________ "The problem with quotes on the Internet is the validity of them." -Abraham Lincoln |
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Haven Brigadier


Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1701 Location: Virginia Beach, North America
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TeflonJon Brigadier Rookie


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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This looks very interesting, but I'll have to see how the drood specs change before I make my final decision. The one thing that might cause me to dislike it is the fact that you have to devote 31 points to a single spec before you can unlock the other 2 trees. I don't know a single druid regardless of role, that isn't specced into Improved MotW and Omen of Clarity. |
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Kellion Brigadier Recruit

Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 817 Location: Riga, Latvia
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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I think that's the point though. They're changing all the talents to remove those worthless talents or the ones that you HAVE to put points into to get what you really want.
They are trying to get it to when all the active skills are deeper in the trees so that you basically can only get some passive with your other 10 points.
As Haven said, It'll either be awesome or sucketh with much vigor. _________________ "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents." -Nathaniel Borenstein |
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TeflonJon Brigadier Rookie


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure they'll make it work just fine, I'm just curious to see how it works out. |
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Akuma Brigadier Commando


Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 2590 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Imp motw is passive so it's definitely leaving. Omen of Clarity they said is a tough one to figure out, they may make it tier 1 or trainer-taught. This is seriously the most awesome change I have seen announced in the entire time I've been playing / following this game and definitely has me interested in giving Cata a shot. _________________ "The problem with quotes on the Internet is the validity of them." -Abraham Lincoln |
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Mongolio Brigadier Elite


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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Tree of Life is gonna be a 45 sec duration, 5 min cooldown. What the hell is up with that??? Temporary forms? Druids don't do temporary! _________________ Core meltdown (commonly known as a meltdown) is an accident scenario in nuclear reactors, and is one of the possible modes of failure for light water reactors, during which the reactor pile turns into a pile of reactor.
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Akuma Brigadier Commando


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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Tree of Life is the only form going temporary for many reasons, all of which are justified. _________________ "The problem with quotes on the Internet is the validity of them." -Abraham Lincoln |
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Mongolio Brigadier Elite


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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:11 am Post subject: |
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It's the principle of the thing. Druids are all about forms.
Tanking gets Dire Bear
Melee DPS gets Cat
Spell DPS gets Moonkin
Healing gets Tree of Life
Why can't they make it so we still get ToL as a nondurational, but can activate Improved ToL or something to increase healing. Don't take my tree form! _________________ Core meltdown (commonly known as a meltdown) is an accident scenario in nuclear reactors, and is one of the possible modes of failure for light water reactors, during which the reactor pile turns into a pile of reactor.
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Akuma Brigadier Commando


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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:48 am Post subject: |
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There is a huge explanation on why they're doing it scattered throughout various blue posts. _________________ "The problem with quotes on the Internet is the validity of them." -Abraham Lincoln |
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SPyder Brigadier Trainee


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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Mongolio wrote: | It's the principle of the thing. Druids are all about forms.
Tanking gets Dire Bear
Melee DPS gets Cat
Spell DPS gets Moonkin
Healing gets Tree of Life
Why can't they make it so we still get ToL as a nondurational, but can activate Improved ToL or something to increase healing. Don't take my tree form! |
Cause we definately wouldn't want to nerf a druid..... Hehe _________________ Oh, holy fuck! It would be worth my time to quit my job, establish a charity, and use it to hunt down this person to punch him in the face with his own book!- Khimaira |
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TeflonJon Brigadier Rookie


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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, nerf everyone else and buff kitties. |
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Mongolio Brigadier Elite


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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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SPyder wrote: | Mongolio wrote: | It's the principle of the thing. Druids are all about forms.
Tanking gets Dire Bear
Melee DPS gets Cat
Spell DPS gets Moonkin
Healing gets Tree of Life
Why can't they make it so we still get ToL as a nondurational, but can activate Improved ToL or something to increase healing. Don't take my tree form! |
Cause we definately wouldn't want to nerf a druid..... Hehe |
Thread hijacker... _________________ Core meltdown (commonly known as a meltdown) is an accident scenario in nuclear reactors, and is one of the possible modes of failure for light water reactors, during which the reactor pile turns into a pile of reactor.
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SPyder Brigadier Trainee


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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:46 am Post subject: Re: |
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Hehe. _________________ Oh, holy fuck! It would be worth my time to quit my job, establish a charity, and use it to hunt down this person to punch him in the face with his own book!- Khimaira |
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TeflonJon Brigadier Rookie


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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Can you link to where ever you got the info on multiple treeforms Mongo? I looked around on the Cata page and couldn't find anything about it in the forums. I'll keep looking though. |
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Akuma Brigadier Commando


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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:35 am Post subject: |
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What do you mean multiple tree forms? _________________ "The problem with quotes on the Internet is the validity of them." -Abraham Lincoln |
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TeflonJon Brigadier Rookie


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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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He had a note on his Real ID status while I was playing earlier that said something about three ranks of the skill. I hadn't found anything on the forums about it, just alot of people whining about them taking away treeform. |
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Akuma Brigadier Commando


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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Unlikely since there are no more spell ranks in Cataclysm. _________________ "The problem with quotes on the Internet is the validity of them." -Abraham Lincoln |
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