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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Cataclysm Talent Plans Reply with quote

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One of the basic tenets of Blizzard game design is that of “concentrated coolness.” We’d rather have a simpler design with a lot of depth, than a complicated but shallow design. The goal for Cataclysm remains to remove a lot of the passive (or lame) talents, but we don’t think that’s possible with the current tree size. To resolve this, we're reducing each tree to 31-point talents. With this reduction in tree size we need to make sure they're being purchased along a similar leveling curve, and therefore will also be reducing the number of total talent points and the speed at which they're awarded during the leveling process.


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This sounds just plain awesome in every way.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cataclysm is one of those changes that are so huge, it'll either be awesome, or suck horribly.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks very interesting, but I'll have to see how the drood specs change before I make my final decision. The one thing that might cause me to dislike it is the fact that you have to devote 31 points to a single spec before you can unlock the other 2 trees. I don't know a single druid regardless of role, that isn't specced into Improved MotW and Omen of Clarity.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's the point though. They're changing all the talents to remove those worthless talents or the ones that you HAVE to put points into to get what you really want.

They are trying to get it to when all the active skills are deeper in the trees so that you basically can only get some passive with your other 10 points.

As Haven said, It'll either be awesome or sucketh with much vigor.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure they'll make it work just fine, I'm just curious to see how it works out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imp motw is passive so it's definitely leaving. Omen of Clarity they said is a tough one to figure out, they may make it tier 1 or trainer-taught. This is seriously the most awesome change I have seen announced in the entire time I've been playing / following this game and definitely has me interested in giving Cata a shot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tree of Life is gonna be a 45 sec duration, 5 min cooldown. What the hell is up with that??? Temporary forms? Druids don't do temporary!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tree of Life is the only form going temporary for many reasons, all of which are justified.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the principle of the thing. Druids are all about forms.

Tanking gets Dire Bear
Melee DPS gets Cat
Spell DPS gets Moonkin
Healing gets Tree of Life

Why can't they make it so we still get ToL as a nondurational, but can activate Improved ToL or something to increase healing. Don't take my tree form!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a huge explanation on why they're doing it scattered throughout various blue posts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mongolio wrote:
It's the principle of the thing. Druids are all about forms.

Tanking gets Dire Bear
Melee DPS gets Cat
Spell DPS gets Moonkin
Healing gets Tree of Life

Why can't they make it so we still get ToL as a nondurational, but can activate Improved ToL or something to increase healing. Don't take my tree form!


Cause we definately wouldn't want to nerf a druid..... Hehe
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, nerf everyone else and buff kitties.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPyder wrote:
Mongolio wrote:
It's the principle of the thing. Druids are all about forms.

Tanking gets Dire Bear
Melee DPS gets Cat
Spell DPS gets Moonkin
Healing gets Tree of Life

Why can't they make it so we still get ToL as a nondurational, but can activate Improved ToL or something to increase healing. Don't take my tree form!


Cause we definately wouldn't want to nerf a druid..... Hehe


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Hehe.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you link to where ever you got the info on multiple treeforms Mongo? I looked around on the Cata page and couldn't find anything about it in the forums. I'll keep looking though.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean multiple tree forms?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He had a note on his Real ID status while I was playing earlier that said something about three ranks of the skill. I hadn't found anything on the forums about it, just alot of people whining about them taking away treeform.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlikely since there are no more spell ranks in Cataclysm.
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